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Defense in Depth

Mar 10, 2022

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Could you build a data-first security program? What would you do if you focused your security program on just the asset?

Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Our sponsored guest is Brian Vecci (@brianthevecci), field CTO, Varonis.

Thanks to our sponsor, Varonis


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In this episode:

  • Do I know where my sensitive data lives? How can I tell?
  • Why do all the tools that try to classify data fail miserably?
  • How much should we teach the data owners about risks in collecting and storing the information?