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Defense in Depth

Aug 5, 2021

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Why should security professionals get certifications? Do they actually teach you what you need to know to solve cybersecurity challenges? OR do they act as gateways or approval checks to be admitted into the field of cybersecurity?

Check out this post for the basis for our conversation on this week’s episode which features me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series, guest co-host Will Gregorian (@willgregorian), head of IT and security, Rhino and our guest Shawn M. Bowen (@smbowen), CISO, World Fuel Services.

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In this episode:

  • Are certifications like the CISSP necessary?
  • Even if they are necessary to get hired, are they relevant?
  • Let's say something good about certs. 
  • Who benefits most from certs? The candidate or the hiring manager?